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NY Times Editor Gives St. John’s Students Tips for Journalism Success

September 24, 2008

How do you get one of the most powerful women in America to sit down and tell you her life story?  Marcus Mabry, International Editor of The New York Times knows how. Mabry conducted three in-depth interviews with Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice to bring to light the character and personality of one of the most “polarizing figures of our time” in his biography, Twice as Good: Condoleezza Rice and her Path to Power

On September 22, the award-winning international reporter described to over 100 St. John’s students and faculty what he calls the “5 Ps of Scoring and Doing Hard to Get Interviews.” Mabry, invited by Professor Claire Serant in the Division of Mass Communications, Journalism, Television and Film came to St. John’s Queens campus to speak to the Learning Communities.

Mabry explained why he chose Rice as his subject and how difficult it was to get such a guarded woman to talk, “I was interested in writing about Rice because although she is very well-known as Secretary of State, there are only a few people that know who she is as a person. She was definitely one of the hardest interviews of my career.”

Mabry believes the 5 Ps are the key to getting private individuals, like Rice, to talk and suggests that every journalist follow them in order to be successful: “The 5 Ps are Persistence, Politeness, Personality, Perspective and Preparation. Persistence is at the heart of journalism, you have to persevere to get your story. Politeness, because being respectful is the only way to get someone comfortable enough to talk. Personality is critical – you have to be warm and charming to get the person to a point where they will be open to you. Perspective is valuable because knowing where the person is coming from and what they value makes them believe that you are on their side. Last but not least preparation - make sure you read and research everything about your interviewee.”

“I thought Marcus Mabry was an incredibly engaging speaker. I wanted to keep listening to what he had to say, and his tips on interviewing people will be helpful for the future. It gave me something to think about when I'm writing myself,” said sophomore journalism major Laura Amato.

Mabry took on his current role as International Business Editor after 19 years at Newsweek. During his time at Newsweek, he served as foreign correspondent for the entire continent of Africa and in Paris, France. He left the aspiring journalists in the audience with valuable advice, “Take advantage of every opportunity presented to you, including internships and study abroad programs, in order to make yourselves viable candidates after graduation.”

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